tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post3767445729166418190..comments2023-05-11T13:16:53.422+01:00Comments on 'Ville Views: Regeneration and Political FocusJames Maskellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15441611588943798565noreply@blogger.comBlogger174125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-42703166631932025082012-10-10T20:52:23.204+01:002012-10-10T20:52:23.204+01:00While its astonishing to see such a long debate on...While its astonishing to see such a long debate on this blog beating the previous record ("Dear TDC Councillors..." back in January) by 60, I'd rather have had 17 comments but the point hit home, something Worrow has taken on board himself. Whether this change happens to the Group remains to be seen, probably come December 6th.<br /><br />I've never understood this argument that Conservatives have to defend or explain themselves against accusations. If you aren't homophobic, why should you have to defend or explain yourself?<br /><br />It was pointed out earlier in the thread that the Conservatives didn't make the Diversity Champion motion at Council. That's true, it was Tom King, but we seconded it. There is no justification for Worrow holding that role but I doubt he has a decision making or indeed influencing role so I'm happy to let that pass.<br /><br />There's a lot of TDC related stuff in the news at the moment and that is where attention should be focused. Thanks to all of you for your comments.James Maskellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15441611588943798565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-14666684168279100312012-10-10T15:50:26.107+01:002012-10-10T15:50:26.107+01:00Interesting for, whiles James has a lively debate ...Interesting for, whiles James has a lively debate going, Tony Flaig has banned further comments on his site unless by email.<br /><br />Easy to understand why with all the underhand and snide anonymous comments that get slipped it, not to mention the bee in the bonnet merchants, but a stifled debate is a lifeless one. Surely it is worth suffering the odd Deal bombing conspiracy or polluted aquifer fanatic in order to get a flow of ranging points of view.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-21797126882583594332012-10-09T21:36:37.592+01:002012-10-09T21:36:37.592+01:00I do rather agree with Tom. UKIP's appeal is a...I do rather agree with Tom. UKIP's appeal is an issue that can't be ignored and if I'm honest, I see rather more people locally lurching to the right of the political spectrum than the leftAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03755236438987278120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-88697697493979841602012-10-09T21:03:58.607+01:002012-10-09T21:03:58.607+01:00Tim, whilst I would agree with you, I do think Sim...Tim, whilst I would agree with you, I do think Simon has a right, indeed a duty, to refute the allegations regularly made by one contributor to this thread, that he somehow doctored the TIG blogsite,<br /><br />Having done that I do agree it is time to move on, but my own greater concern arises out of the performance of central government having a negative effect on Conservative support. Difficult to gets boots on the ground when the boots are marching towards Nigel Farage in desperation at the lack of Tory leadership.<br /><br />To be fair, the Conservatives should have walked the last election after Brown's performance. What chance would they have under the same leader when policies seem to deliberately antagonise grass roots support.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-37966617119808398112012-10-09T20:35:34.764+01:002012-10-09T20:35:34.764+01:00All a long way from James' original posting. L...All a long way from James' original posting. Local Conservatives should do their best to ignore the TIGs - it is evident that their leader needs the oxygen of publicity in order to survive. Instead, they should be working towards regaining the trust of the electorate. Believe me, this endless sniping is not the way to do this and is not working. Far better to start putting boots on the pavement and get out amongst the voters. Negative campaigning never wins votes because the British usually see through it. Better by far to come up with alternative policies to those of the present ruling group. The alternative is to let Labour in again.Tim Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09360638835659673415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-46482116878151336122012-10-09T20:21:57.558+01:002012-10-09T20:21:57.558+01:00Cannot wait for you know who's response, Simon...Cannot wait for you know who's response, Simon. Sure it won't be long coming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-3256453063760160832012-10-09T19:40:30.146+01:002012-10-09T19:40:30.146+01:00Gosh... James Maskell must hold the local record o...Gosh... James Maskell must hold the local record on blog comments, so well done indeed James. I think this is partly due to the 'usual suspect' insisting on the last word and since I last dropped by over 100 comments have been added.<br /><br />For clarification... 'Again' the TIG archive is simply that but with a little tongue in cheek satire along the sidebar. An independent council investigator went through this with me last month and appeared quite satisfied that it was authentic.<br /><br />Agreeing with some earlier comments, if I had manipulated or represented the historical content of the TIG archive, at best I would be open to a standards complaint but at worst, a libel action and I'm really not that dim.<br /><br />The TIG archive exists to remind any interested observer what these three individuals stand for on our local political scene but obviously some people have very short memories or prefer to think of them as moral crusaders.<br /><br />So next time I drop-in, perhaps the comment stream will have reached 200... wouldn't that be something!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03755236438987278120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-19010887376609233742012-10-09T10:44:03.746+01:002012-10-09T10:44:03.746+01:00Is that a politician's epitaph, Councillor Wel...Is that a politician's epitaph, Councillor Wells? And anyone particular in mind?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-84988506084906835202012-10-09T10:43:02.506+01:002012-10-09T10:43:02.506+01:00No, 08.59, I don't blame it all on the Conserv...No, 08.59, I don't blame it all on the Conservative Party. I have said many times that TIG have behaved far from acceptably or appropriately. I have also said that on some issues - like accepting turncoats without forcing by-elections - all Parties are equally flawed. I have simply challenged those who say that TIG are entirely to blame. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-58947218879802851142012-10-09T09:14:23.210+01:002012-10-09T09:14:23.210+01:00"Vanity, definitely my favorite sin". Jo..."Vanity, definitely my favorite sin". John Milton (Al Pacino) in The Devils Advocate (1997)Chris Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04022576946890382047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-40436897125136806662012-10-09T08:59:16.781+01:002012-10-09T08:59:16.781+01:0006:40 I genuinely wish you were right, but the cha...06:40 I genuinely wish you were right, but the characters involved, all round, will not let the TIG issue die just yet I am afraid.<br /><br />John Worrow himself has released another video, available to view over on Thanet Press Releases, which is sure to provoke reaction. In it he attacks Conservatives at Westminster and Maidstone levels so, whilst you might call them thuggish elements, it is almost inevitable that some within the party will respond. I am sure that is why he does it, to fuel the flames and perpetuate his victimhood stance.<br /><br />I know you get pleasure at blaming it all on the Tories, but JW himself plays a role.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-85698096029793588242012-10-09T08:32:12.392+01:002012-10-09T08:32:12.392+01:00Looks like Anon 18:50 and A. Harris have got a cro...Looks like Anon 18:50 and A. Harris have got a crosssed wire and misunderstood each other. Really enjoyed the bit about 18:50 being anally retentive and would strongly recommend a little black capsule if that is the case.<br /><br />When the girls fall out it gets much more spiteful than blokes, who just hit each other and then have another beer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-3243020405777265072012-10-09T07:59:19.782+01:002012-10-09T07:59:19.782+01:00TIG antics continue unabated with the latest video...TIG antics continue unabated with the latest video release from JW over on Thanet Press Releases. Seems he is now qualified to solve everything and is calling for an independent Thanet, presumably so he can rule it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-46648980235557095242012-10-09T06:40:15.271+01:002012-10-09T06:40:15.271+01:00Interesting how the exchanges have strayed from th...Interesting how the exchanges have strayed from the antics of TIG and the dirty tricks campaign waged against them by certain thuggish elements in the local Conservative Party. I wonder if that's a good sign?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-61993217103059776532012-10-09T01:23:10.208+01:002012-10-09T01:23:10.208+01:0018:50 Sir Roger Gale was mentioned in about 10 pos...18:50 Sir Roger Gale was mentioned in about 10 postings before and I was expressing those points. I am calm, but why of course you can patronise me all you like but it does not enter into the realm of sodomy and anal sex as much as you like to sway the debate into that direction. It would seem you are more anally retentive than you like to believe. Now be good and crawl back under your stoneage rock.<br /><br />A. HarrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-91686338691944920932012-10-08T21:28:38.310+01:002012-10-08T21:28:38.310+01:00Whatever, "Tom".Whatever, "Tom".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-20602648991950202592012-10-08T21:02:30.948+01:002012-10-08T21:02:30.948+01:0020:26 After earlier comment I have only just come ...20:26 After earlier comment I have only just come back into this thread and have confined my contribution to the issues arising out of the Roman downfall. Quite where in that I have lied or been offensive I fail to see.<br /><br />You on the other hand adopt a superior and condescending attitude attempting to dismiss me as a funny old thing. What exactly does that make you. Well you smirk to your heart's content, but I would not mind betting that I am not much older than you and I am certainly not funnier. To quote Blair, I am a pretty straight forward sort of guy with the emphasis on the straight. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-26918185783877300012012-10-08T20:26:00.717+01:002012-10-08T20:26:00.717+01:00"Tom Clarke", I don't normally have ..."Tom Clarke", I don't normally have any truck with liars and offensive contributors - all the evidence against you is set out clearly in the previous thread - but on one level, you do make me smirk. You are such a funny old thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-38890277072071689972012-10-08T19:26:50.141+01:002012-10-08T19:26:50.141+01:0018:50, my how comments get distorted to suit your ...18:50, my how comments get distorted to suit your case. It was not I that started the Romans bit and the person who talked about the reasons for their downfall did not confine to sodomy and buggary, but also referred to the worship of the sex god, debauchery and the abuse of young girls. Someone, for reasons best known to themselves, decide to just pick up on the anal sex bit.<br /><br />True the Romans were not overly chuffed with Christianity to start with, but ultimately embaced it with Rome becoming the centre of the Christian church.<br /><br />I made no mention of Gale because before I commented he had not appeared in the debate and I am really not into double guessing what is coming next.<br /><br />As for the gagging for someone to say homophobe, 17:40, please spare us your vivid imagination. I could not care less whether you call me silly names or not. If it pleases your silly mind please be my guest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-42584134171188639842012-10-08T18:50:06.506+01:002012-10-08T18:50:06.506+01:00"A. Harris" - is that "A" for ..."A. Harris" - is that "A" for Auntie? - I think you need to calm down a bit, dear. I know that Gale is a dinosaur, but silly "Tom" is talking here about the ROMAN EMPIRE - well he sort of is. They came later than the dinosaurs. No mention of Gale or his "militant homosexual" taunt.<br /><br />And of course the Romans weren't terribly keen on the christian church, so... you might dislike them more than the LGBTs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-75748148523754994862012-10-08T18:06:18.074+01:002012-10-08T18:06:18.074+01:00Completely agree with Tom Clarke's comments. G...Completely agree with Tom Clarke's comments. Grow UP and accept that people have views and their own opinions, even if you may feel they are bigoted or not. As for mentioning about Roger Gale and the Militant Homosexual comment, it simply refers to gay activists are people who are determined to force gay/equal marriage on the church.<br /><br />A.HarrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-48034092374690887452012-10-08T17:40:04.248+01:002012-10-08T17:40:04.248+01:00I know you are simply desperate for a "fight&...I know you are simply desperate for a "fight", "Tom Clarke", and gagging for someone to say "homophobe" or "gay", but I'm afraid you're totally out of luck.<br /><br />Firstly, the earlier Anon's point was that modern society is likely to suffer the same fate as Ancient Rome ibecause of "sodomy and buggery". I think both mean anal sex and are acts not restricted to gay men by a long way. Subsequent posts - moderate and sensible until you came along again - simply proffer the view that there is much to be positive about in modern society and what does ail it is not all down to sexual activities and liberation.<br /><br />And only part of what seems to ail Thanet Council is TIG. The other part is the thuggish, dirty tricks wing of the Conservative Party, but of course you'd choke on your Daily Mail before conceding that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-14677269722497536532012-10-08T15:57:26.601+01:002012-10-08T15:57:26.601+01:00Someone describes the debauchery that preceeded th...Someone describes the debauchery that preceeded the downfall of the Roman empire and somebody else immediately leaps in with an accusation of blaming societies' evils on anal sex.<br /><br />Says it all about Thanet with a council propped up by a party obsessed with homophobia and even bloggers looking for it at every opportunity.<br /><br />I am with James and Tim for moving on, but it gets difficult if we cannot even discuss the fall of the Romans with invoking the wrath of the TIG mentality fraternity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-76978730220561814292012-10-08T14:11:48.742+01:002012-10-08T14:11:48.742+01:00I also see much to celebrate in modern society and...I also see much to celebrate in modern society and believe you need to maintain a balanced assessment and view. But it is for you to decide how best to reconcile your sense of shame. Not much more one can add.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-2428004748862705372012-10-08T13:40:56.579+01:002012-10-08T13:40:56.579+01:00Not anal sex in isolation, 12:19, but an obsession...Not anal sex in isolation, 12:19, but an obsession with sex for self gratification without any meaningful relationship. From TV, to films to magazines our society seemingly highlights sex and displays unhealthy looking stick insects for our adolescents to copy.<br />Dubious celebrities flit from affair to affair, cheat on partners and proudly proclaim how many people they have bedded whilst over paid footballers have gang bangs in hotel suites. All make our papers.<br />If you are not ashamed of such a society I certainly am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com