tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post1254049470986137907..comments2023-05-11T13:16:53.422+01:00Comments on 'Ville Views: Full Council and Animal ExportsJames Maskellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15441611588943798565noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-62820546984720736582012-12-07T10:05:56.552+00:002012-12-07T10:05:56.552+00:00Like Michael, I thought the Council blocked furthe...Like Michael, I thought the Council blocked further export activity because of safety issues at the port, NOT because of their opposition in principle to the trade. I saw this as something of a ruse, but, given my personal interest in animal welfare, a good and clever one. Why are others who claim to be intereetd in animal welfare - such as Gale - remaining so silent on this point?<br /><br />Perhaps because there is now the distraction of the nature and strength of the legal advice given to Thanet Council, and the possibility of embarrassing Hart and Co over this.<br /><br />I agree that if wrong decisions have been made and there are financial consequences, that should be addressed, but let's keep these two issues separate. At the moment, it seems clear that certain local Tories - including the alleged animal welfare enthusiast Gale - are putting the potential scope for political point-scoring way ahead of animal welfare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-9217611105632873472012-12-05T19:28:38.366+00:002012-12-05T19:28:38.366+00:00The easy solution to this is for us to see the leg...The easy solution to this is for us to see the legal advice put before the Council prior to it's decision. Any right thinking Cabinet member would surely have asked for the advice to be written down so it can be properly considered.<br /><br />Or am I just being a bit thick in saying this?James Maskellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15441611588943798565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-91026658424257411492012-12-05T15:40:34.070+00:002012-12-05T15:40:34.070+00:00Hard;y.. I pretty quickly pointed out to Reg Bell ...Hard;y.. I pretty quickly pointed out to Reg Bell and others that as much as any decent person might support a ban on the Jolene, it lay outside the law, had been tried on many occasions before and had failed with very expensive consequences for the Council's involved.<br /><br />That's not political point scoring, simply common sense and a rather daft set of animal welfare laws which act against the welfare of animals.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03755236438987278120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-83124343576335819332012-12-02T18:53:05.272+00:002012-12-02T18:53:05.272+00:00I'm sure you're right, Michael. But it see...I'm sure you're right, Michael. But it seems to suit certain Tory TDC members now to distance themselves from the decision and attempt to score political points against Hart and Co. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-11280308595941405232012-12-02T12:17:50.810+00:002012-12-02T12:17:50.810+00:00Sorry have I misunderstood the animal export busin...Sorry have I misunderstood the animal export business? I thought that the temporary ban was instituted when the fiasco of sheep drowning in a drain and having their legs broken by a faulty lorry showed the Port Ramsgate facilities to be inadequate. I had assumed that the legal aspect was based on the council’s lawyers and the ban was supported across all parties.<br /><br />Whereas I am all for pointing out Labour fiascos, I thought if this was a fiasco it was unilateral, supported by the vast majority of local politicians and the local people they represent. <br />Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-63949369080671527702012-11-30T22:04:04.081+00:002012-11-30T22:04:04.081+00:00The most important thing to come out of all this i...The most important thing to come out of all this is that the idiots in control are going to cost us a fortune. As least Bayford checked out the legal position and didn't decide to embark on an illegal ban. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-78492021257195709202012-11-30T21:19:14.751+00:002012-11-30T21:19:14.751+00:00I'm not voting for Gale anymore its UKIP for m...I'm not voting for Gale anymore its UKIP for me. This animal export nonsense is all about EU law. Let's get out of the EU. Vote UKIPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-22575763746988360732012-11-30T19:37:24.246+00:002012-11-30T19:37:24.246+00:00Yeah, that's true, but it is an animal welfare...Yeah, that's true, but it is an animal welfare issue on his own doorstep. He's not backwards in shouting his mouth off about things that happen a long way outside his area.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-85837515951188727182012-11-30T18:19:00.634+00:002012-11-30T18:19:00.634+00:00I suspect that Roger Gale is leaving the matter to...I suspect that Roger Gale is leaving the matter to the local MP, who is of course Laura Sandys.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03755236438987278120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-6065811449783800312012-11-30T15:13:59.835+00:002012-11-30T15:13:59.835+00:00Funny how MP Gale has nothing recent on his websit...Funny how MP Gale has nothing recent on his website about the animal exports from Ramsgate. I thought he claimed to be interested in animal welfare, or doesn't he think there are any votes in this particular issue?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-15119725855543145982012-11-29T21:22:56.315+00:002012-11-29T21:22:56.315+00:00James,
Cllr Fenners statement of yesterday doesn...James, <br /><br />Cllr Fenners statement of yesterday doesn't confirm that the Council got it wrong and were high-tailing it out of a legal fight. I thought the Council claimed they were acting on good legal advice when they introduced the export ban. What happened to that advice, or wasn't there any. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7451795692810208788.post-27160532192439213922012-11-29T21:21:11.432+00:002012-11-29T21:21:11.432+00:00Good grief does no-one proof read things anymore? ...Good grief does no-one proof read things anymore? 1 o'clock Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06776573336320716428noreply@blogger.com